Agenda item
APPLICATION NO. 01/2016/0374/PF - LAND AT CAE TOPYN, OFF OLD RUTHIN ROAD, FFORDD EGLWYSWEN, DENBIGH
- Meeting of Planning Committee, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 9.30 am (Item 5.)
- View the declarations of interest for item 5.
To consider an application for erection of 75 no. dwellings, together with associated roads, open space
and related works at Land at Cae Topyn, off Old Ruthin Road, Ffordd Eglwyswen,
Denbigh (copy attached).
Minutes:
[Councillor Joe Welch declared a personal
interest because the owner of the field subject of the applicant was a
friend. Councillor Arwel Roberts
declared a personal interest in this item in so far as it related to the Chapel
where he often preaches.]
An application had been submitted for erection
of 75 no. dwellings, together with associated roads, open space and related
works at land at Cae Topyn,
off Old Ruthin Road, Ffordd Eglwyswen,
Denbigh.
Public Speakers –
Dr. H. Watkin (Against) –
referred to documentation he had sent to members the previous day regarding his
opposition to the development and highlighted particular areas of concern
relating to pedestrian access; open space; highways and parking; flooding, and
impacts on the Welsh language and biodiversity.
Mr. M. Gilbert (For) – stressed that the site had been allocated for residential
development within the LDP and therefore argued that objections to the location
and distance to facilities were irrelevant points. He reported upon requirements imposed through
the application procedures and responded to issues raised regarding traffic
generation and parking, flooding, biodiversity and education.
General Debate – The Development Manager introduced the item
advising that the site formed part of a larger land allocation for housing in
the LDP. He drew attention to the large
shortfall in housing completions over the LDP period advising that the
development would provide 75 houses and a range of dwellings (with just over
the 10% minimum for affordable housing), open space and a commuted sum payment
of £31,993. In order to guide potential
developers a Site Development Brief (SDB) had been adopted, and whilst not
policy, this SDB provided guidance and was a material planning consideration in
this case. The main planning
considerations had been set out in the report and the SDB had also been
considered in relation to the proposals as part of that process. No objections had been raised by specialist
consultees and appropriate documentation had been provided in relation to the
relevant assessments and strategies required.
Finally members were reminded that the material planning considerations
related to the impact of the proposal as opposed to the principle of the
development.
Councillor Mark Young (Local Member)
highlighted the huge amount of work in developing the SDB for the Brookhouse Sites which formed the basis for the
determination of planning applications on the site, and he considered that many
aspects of the proposed development did not conform to those requirements. That view was shared by fellow Denbigh
Councillors Colin Hughes and Gwyneth Kensler who provided some history to the
site within the current context of the planning application and the allocation
of the sites by the Planning Inspectorate.
Denbigh residents had opposed the site allocation in the LDP and were
not being best served by the current development proposals. Councillor David Smith also advocated the
strict use of SDBs when considering planning applications and was disappointed
that more weight had not been attached to the SDB on this occasion. The general consensus was that, given that
that the SDB had been tailored specifically to the Brookhouse
Sites, and despite assurances that SDBs would be robustly complied with, it had
not happened in this case. Questions
were also raised at this point regarding the transport assessment and measures
of addressing flooding concerns together with drainage problems. Concerns were also raised regarding the
robustness of the legal agreements proposed given that many had been contested
and subsequently overturned in the past.
Officers responded to members concerns and
questions as follows –
·
clarified
the terminology around SDBs confirming that the SDB was not policy as a matter
of law but it was guidance and a material planning consideration and was an
important part of the assessment
·
stressed
that the SDB had not been ignored in this case and officers made it clear that
there were policies in the LDP supported by guidance and a clear assessment of
the application had taken place having consideration to the SDB
·
for
clarity members were asked to specify those areas of the SDB which they
considered the application did not comply with
·
with
regard to questions around education and drainage/flooding, members were
referred to the additional information in the supplementary papers (blue
sheets) which clarified those issues
·
whilst it
was appreciated that there were concerns around highway issues the data
produced as part of the Transport Assessment was considered robust and the
assessment of the impact on the local highway network had been detailed within
the report – it was concluded that the level of traffic could be accommodated
by the existing highway network and there was confidence it could cope with the
additional traffic.
During the course of debate members considered
the relevant policies and guidance, including the SDB and the material planning
considerations as set out within the report.
In addition to the wealth of concerns raised via representations
received members also raised their own concerns regarding the development –
·
Highways
(including accessibility and parking) – concerns regarding the adequacy of the
Transport Assessment and calculation methods given that previous developments
approved on that basis had subsequently given rise to traffic problems; parking
problems at Old Ruthin Road; positioning of the access near the Chapel and need
for extra parking at peak times, and concerns over safe routes to school
·
Education
– there was a requirement in the SDB for an education contribution and concerns
were expressed regarding the decision to waive that requirement, particularly
given parental preference with a number of schools being full to capacity,
including Ysgol Glan Clwyd, together with the strain
on the current school infrastructure in the form of mobile classrooms. The importance of the education environment
to both existing and potential pupils was highlighted
·
Welsh
Language – it was submitted that Denbigh had one of the highest number of Welsh
speakers in the county which would be threatened by the development and be at
odds with strategies to increase the number of Welsh speakers both in the
county and across Wales
·
Affordable
Housing – the developer had stated his intention to provide 8 affordable
housing dwellings on site which would need to be subject of a S.106 agreement
to deliver. However some members were
not persuaded that a legal agreement could be relied upon to secure delivery of
those dwellings
·
Open Space
– there were calls for the full allocation to be provided
·
Drainage
(including flooding) – it was considered that this element should have been dealt with at the pre-application stage as
specified within the SDB and whilst some information had been provided
regarding the management of surface water flooding and drainage members did not
consider there to be sufficient detail to satisfy them in that regard,
particularly given that the existing infrastructure was not coping and it was
considered that the development and proposed means of addressing the issue
would likely result in additional flooding.
There was also some concern regarding the location of the pumping
station next to the Chapel
·
Loss of
Hedgerows – the proposal included the removal of hedgerows and reference had
been made in the SDB that the existing hedgerow abutting the A525 and on both
sides of Old Ruthin Road and the established hedgerow abutting Whitchurch Road
should be retained highlighting their importance for visual screening and as
habitats for local wildlife
·
Scale,
Density and Character of the Housing Development – concerns that the
development was out of scale and character with the surrounding area and was
contrary to the SDB in that a lower density was warranted in this case.
Officers responded to those concerns and
subsequent questions as follows –
Highways (including accessibility and parking)
–
·
although
the requested software had not been used in the Transport Assessment officers
were satisfied that the calculations provided were robust
·
the
guidelines specified within the Council’s Supplementary Planning Guidance on
Parking had been met
·
it was
considered that the development would not significantly increase traffic in the
location of Old Ruthin Road and Whitchurch Road junction and would likely
generate an increase of one car per minute on the highway
·
there was
an existing problem associated with parking on Old Ruthin Road (brow of slope)
and each access onto the road met visibility standards
·
ideally 10
spaces for the Chapel would be provided and the developer proposed parking for
the Chapel in the form of a layby for 4 spaces – more spaces may be provided as
part of the application for the development of the other site
·
having
regard to the information submitted the Highways Officer did not consider there
were sufficient grounds to refuse the application on highway matters and
conditions had been suggested to deal with particular points as necessary.
Drainage – no objections had been received from
Natural Resources Wales and the County Land Drainage Engineer regarding the
proposed means of dealing with surface water drainage and officers believed
sufficient information had been submitted to show that foul and surface water
could be effectively managed subject to appropriate conditions. The impact on the Chapel when locating the
pumping station had been considered and discussed with Environmental Health who
considered there to be no issues of noise or odour and therefore no impact.
Archaeology – the County Archaeologist and
Clwyd Powys Archaeological Trust had been consulted and had concluded limited
impact on the site.
Education – given the latest information
available and calculation of school places generated by the new development
Education officers were of the view that there was sufficient capacity within
the nearest primary and secondary schools and therefore a financial
contribution would not be required – in terms of community infrastructure
contributions must be reasonable and linked to the development.
Affordable Housing – officers advised that the
use of S.106 agreements was standard practice to ensure developers were held to
account and was not a strong ground to refuse an application.
In light of the concerns raised regarding the
development Councillor Mark Young proposed, seconded by Councillor Merfyn
Parry, that the application be refused, and further discussion focused on the
specific planning grounds for refusal.
Officers advised that if the application was refused, contrary to
officer recommendation, a report would be submitted to the next committee
meeting in accordance with usual practice in order for officers to respond to
the issues raised and further advise as to the appropriateness of the planning
grounds for refusal.
Proposal – Councillor Mark Young proposed, seconded by
Councillor Merfyn Parry, that the application be refused, contrary to officer
recommendation on the grounds of unacceptable impact on Welsh language; impact
on traffic safety and safe routes to school; inadequate information submitted
regarding drainage and concerns over flooding; lack of financial contributions
towards education resulting in negative educational impacts; inadequate on-site
open space provision; loss of hedgerows; scale, density and character of the
housing development, and detrimental impact on the nearby church by the
proposed pumping station.
VOTE:
GRANT – 1
REFUSE – 24
ABSTAIN – 0
RESOLVED that permission be REFUSED, contrary to officer recommendation, on grounds of
unacceptable impact on Welsh language; impact on traffic safety and safe routes
to school; inadequate information submitted regarding drainage and concerns
over flooding; lack of financial contributions towards education resulting in
negative educational impacts; inadequate on-site open space provision; loss of
hedgerows; scale density and character of the housing development, and
detrimental impact on the nearby church by the proposed pumping station.
At this point (11.30 a.m.) the meeting
adjourned for a refreshment break.
Supporting documents:
- ITEM 5 - CAE TOPYN, DENBIGH, item 5. PDF 6 KB
- ITEM 5 - CAE TOPYN, DENBIGH - APPENDICES, item 5. PDF 1 MB