Agenda item
APPLICATION NO. 16/2016/1045/PS - LLANBEDR HALL, LLANBEDR DYFFRYN CLWYD, RUTHIN
- Meeting of Planning Committee, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 9.30 am (Item 5.)
- View the declarations of interest for item 5.
To consider an application for variation of condition number 12 of planning permission ref 16/2016/0545 to allow continued use of both accesses to the development, removing the requirement to restrict the use of Lon y Mynydd access at Llanbedr Hall, Llanbedr Dyffryn Clwyd, Ruthin (copy attached).
Minutes:
[Councillor Huw Williams declared a personal interest in
this item because the Agents acting on behalf of Llanbedr Hall were also acting
as his Agents in respect of work relating to his farm]
An application had been submitted for variation
of condition number 12 of planning permission ref 16/2016/0545 to allow
continued use of both accesses to the development, removing the requirement to
restrict the use of Lon y Mynydd access at Llanbedr
Hall, Llanbedr Dyffryn Clwyd, Ruthin.
Public Speaker –
Ms. G. Crawley (For) – referred to previous planning history and the Inspector’s
appeal findings that there would be no significant impact on traffic using the
rear drive and highlighted improvements to be made to the front drive to
encourage use. All construction traffic
would use the front drive. It was argued
that it was not reasonable to refuse the variation given the planning history
and existing use rights.
General Debate – Councillor Huw Williams (Local Member) drew
attention to the rear access point and road network as marked on the plans and
illustrated by the presentation slides and he highlighted particular highway
concerns. Concerns included the
inadequacies of the rear access track and Lon y Mynydd
/ Lon Cae Glas and onto the
A494 Trunk Road including poor/no visibility at the junction leading from the
rear, speeding along the rear access roads, and the A494 Trunk Road between
Ruthin and Mold which was narrow and dangerous and a
notorious blackspot. He also highlighted
an area of the rear access track specifically signposted as unsuitable for
vehicles and numerous road traffic accidents at points along the back route.
Finally reference was made to the wealth of local objections on highway grounds
and given the potential increase in traffic arising from the development
Councillor Williams confirmed he could not support the application.
During debate members considered the factors
for and against the variation, weighing up the planning history and road safety
concerns. Councillors Merfyn Parry, Dewi Owens and Huw Hilditch-Roberts confirmed they were
familiar with the area and reported upon their own experiences and traffic
safety concerns in that regard. It was
felt that much weight should be given to local knowledge and the wealth of objections
received detailing highway safety concerns.
Whilst acknowledging the planning history and likelihood of an appeal
against a decision to refuse the application those members felt safety concerns
were paramount in this case, particularly given that the front drive provided a
safer and adequate route.
Planning and Highways Officers did not contest
the limitations of the rear drive route and acknowledged the concerns raised
regarding its inadequacies. However it was reiterated that the significant planning
history in this case offered limited support to refuse the application and
officers elaborated upon the implications arising from the planning permissions
previously granted by the committee in 2006 [No. 16/206/0872 – appeal upheld
concerning the use of the respective drives], 2015 [No. 16/2014/1020 – extant
planning permission for 9 dwellings with no restriction], and 2016 [No. 16/2016/0545 – subsequent
approval of arrangement relating to condition 10 restricting the route of
construction vehicles to the front drive].
Given that history officers did not consider the impact of the 2
additional dwellings granted under the latest planning permission sufficient
justification to refuse the application for variation. In terms of evidence there had been only one
recorded accident along the route during October 2011 – October 2016, although
it was accepted that not all accidents were reported. In response to further questions officers
clarified that both driveways were privately owned up to the public highway. With regard to enforcement of condition
number 12 the applicant was required to show the means of preventing access to
the rear drive to the local authority for approval following which any breach
would become an enforcement matter.
Proposal – Councillor Huw Williams considered the use of
the Lon y Mynydd access to be dangerous and not fit
for purpose and he proposed, seconded by Councillor Dewi
Owens, that the application be refused, contrary to
officer recommendation, on highway safety grounds.
VOTE:
GRANT – 6
REFUSE – 16
ABSTAIN – 0
RESOLVED that permission be REFUSED, contrary to officer recommendation, on highway safety
grounds.
In the event of an appeal against the
committee’s decision it was agreed that, as proposer and seconder respectively,
Councillors Huw Williams and Dewi Owens attend any
subsequent appeal hearing. It was also
noted that the Highways Officer would be unable to defend the decision at an
appeal and members agreed to the engagement of a Highways Consultant if
necessary. It was also resolved that the
wording of the reason for refusal be agreed with the local member.
Supporting documents:
- ITEM 6 - LLANBEDR HALL (VARIATION), item 5. PDF 6 KB
- ITEM 6 - LLANBEDR HALL (VARIATION) - APPENDIX, item 5. PDF 312 KB