Agenda item
APPLICATION NO. 47/2023/0708 - FORMER RHYL RUGBY CLUB, WAEN ROAD, RHUDDLAN
To consider an application for the change of use of land and existing club building to form glamping site
including the siting of 9 glamping pods, relocation of existing access,
formation of internal roads and pathways, installation of 2 No. package
treatment plants and associated works (copy attached).
Minutes:
An
application was submitted for the change of use of land and existing club
building to form glamping site including the siting of 9 glamping pods,
relocation of existing access, formation of internal roads and pathways,
installation of 2 No. package treatment plants and associated works.
Public Speaker – Gethin
Jones (Agent) - (For) – The applicant sought approval for 9 luxury holiday Pods
in the grounds of the former Rhyl Rugby Club.
As a
local business the aim was to diversify offerings within the area and offer
something special to the sporting community. The vision was to create a unique
holiday destination in an Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty (AONB) whilst
restoring the abandoned Rugby Club along with creating part time and full-time
jobs.
As
outlined in previous documents the site had recently faced issues with
unauthorised access and fly tipping. Previously Denbighshire County Council
(DCC) Officers had supported an application for 46 units on the site. The new
scheme had been significantly scaled back.
A key
focus of the proposal was to enhance the existing club house, offering local
businesses and entrepreneurs the opportunity to use the building as offices at
discounted rates. Natural Resources Wases (NRW) had already approved the
drainage plan for the site and recently local football teams had expressed an
interest in using the football pitches.
The
proposal differed significantly from other developments within the area and
aimed to provide holiday makers with an opportunity to explore the local
landscape. The business plan outlined the benefits the development would bring
to the local community.
It was
strongly disagreed that many visitors to the site would rely on using cars to
travel around the local area. Given the site’s proximity to the Offa’s Dyke
footpaths, it was anticipated that many visitors to the site would be walkers
travelling to local villages and towns on foot following signposts within the
area. It was important to note that the previous application submitted would
have generated far greater car travel usage with no objections being submitted
from Highway Services.
Public Speaker – Deirdre
Williams (Resident) – (Against) – The Pods were classed as static caravans and
therefore were not supported by Planning Policy. The site was in the open
countryside and surrounded by BMV agricultural land.
The site
was not in a sustainable location as it was not readily accessible other than
by motor car. The pedestrian links to settlements were not suitable and would
discourage people from walking due to the nature of the highway conditions.
The Welsh
Minister had previously refused permission for a larger lodge development (40
units), however, the principle of this decision still applied to this smaller
application.
The
proposal would result in more cars using the roads around the site and visitors
may not drive according to road conditions.
There
were existing holiday uses within the local vicinity and there was no evidence of
the need for the proposed pods.
General Debate –
The Chair
stated that a site meeting had taken place and welcomed members who attended to
give feedback to the Committee.
Councillor
Chris Evans stated that the site meeting was well attended. The plans for the
site had massively changed and there were concerns from residents regarding the
roads around the site.
Councillor
Merfyn Parry attended the site meeting and expressed his sadness at the current
state of the site. It was evident that burning had taken place on the site and
had been left. It was interesting to walk around the site and see what the
layout plans were.
Councillor
Ellie Chard stated that she was very pleased to receive the plans for the site
and hoped that the site could become a community area for local football teams
and clubs.
Councillor
Jon Harland noted that the Highways Services had no objections to the
application however, PROPOSED the application was refused on the grounds that
the roads around the site were not suitable for the increase in usage of cars
and could be dangerous.
Councillor
Arwel Roberts SECONDED the proposal being refused stating that that site would
result in more cars using the highways around the site which were dangerous.
Councillor
Delyth Jones requested Officers confirmed the current status of the site
including accessing the site. The Principal Planning Officer stated that the
site was under the same ownership and access to the football pitches was
maintained by the owners.
Many
Members raised concerns and questions regarding the highways surrounding the
site.
In
response to questions asked the Principal Planning Officer stated that there
were two aspects to the highway issues arising from the application, highway
safety and highway sustainability which related to the accessibility of the
site. Concerns had been raised around the surrounding roads not being safe to
walk on.
Legislation
stated that there needs to be encouragement for the use of sustainable routes
of transport and to discourage the use of private motor cars. The Inspector
stated, which was echoed by the Welsh Minister, that the location of the site
would only increase the use of the private motor cars and the distance of the
routes to the nearby local settlement were not sustainable.
Councillor
Andrea Tomlin questioned if a condition could be put on the business case if
the application was granted to ensure a more robust business case was
submitted. Further comments were made regarding the weight being given to a
previous application submitted for the site and transport issues not being a
concern in the past.
Councillor
Huw Hilditch-Roberts seconded the proposed condition by Councillor Andrea
Tomlin and added that there were many similar sites across the County. If the
application was not granted there was the possibility of the site falling into
further disrepair and proposed that the application be granted.
Councillor
Alan James questioned where parking would be available on the site as there
were no provisions for parking in the application. The Principal Planning
Officer explained that if permission was granted for the proposal a condition
could be added to the application, stating that if the football pitches were
brought back into use, then details of parking arrangements would need to be
submitted.
Councillor
Chris Evans specified that there had been no reported incidents on the
surrounding highway of the site and the objections received regarding highways
could be controlled by placing planning conditions on the application. He
continued to highlight his concerns regarding encouraging visitors to walk to
and from the site, using the busy surrounding highway and questioned if work
could be undertaken to provide a footpath along the road. The Senior Engineer
appreciated the local concerns around the highway however, there had been no
recorded accidents on the road to merit Highway Services refusing the
application. It would not be feasible for work to be undertaken on a footpath.
The
Development Manager explained that due to there being two proposals put
forward, one for and one against Officer recommendations there was a need to
undertake two votes.
Proposal – Councillor
Arwel Roberts proposed that the application be REFUSED according to Officer
recommendations, SECONDED by Councillor Jon Harland.
Vote –
For – 5
Against –
14
Abstain –
0
Proposal - Councillor Huw
Hilditch-Roberts proposed that the application be GRANTED against Officer
recommendations, SECONDED by Councillor Andrea Tomlin
Vote –
For – 14
Against –
5
Abstain –
0
RESOLVED: that the
application be GRANTED against Officer recommendations on the grounds of no
evidence regarding highway or transport concerns and the site had the
possibility of falling into further disrepair.
Supporting documents:
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FRONT SHEET 47-2023-0708 - Rhuddlan, item 5.
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47-2023-0708 - PDF (Rhuddlan), item 5.
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