Agenda item
APPLICATION NO. 18/2021/1260/ PF - LAND ADJACENT TO MAES LLAN, LLANDYRNOG, DENBIGH, LL16 4HF
- Meeting of Planning Committee, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 9.30 am (Item 5.)
- View the declarations of interest for item 5.
To consider an application for the erection of 40 dwellings, construction of a new vehicular access, landscaping and associated works at land adjacent to Maes Llan, Llandyrnog, Denbigh (copy attached).
Minutes:
An application was submitted for the
erection of 40 dwellings, construction of a new vehicular access, landscaping
and associated works at land adjacent to
Maes Llan,
Llandyrnog, Denbigh.
Public Speaker –
Mr Emyr Morris (attended virtually) (AGAINST) – Mr
Morris stated the development of 40 houses would represent the largest single
development in the history of the village adding 10% to housing stock, inhabitants
and traffic in the area. He informed members on the day of the site visit the
B5429 to the village was closed for road repairs so members in attendance at
the site visit would not have witnessed a true representation of the traffic.
In his opinion the use of agricultural land for development should firstly meet
the needs of local people and take account of existing local village residents.
He stated the current site layout bared little resemblance to what had been
proposed in the outlined planning application. The green frontage originally
proposed had been removed, this would have kept the development in line with
other neighbouring properties. Gone were the proposed bungalows to accommodate
those with mobility issues or that might have a need to downsize. He informed
members one of the properties would have very limited visibility due to the
hedgerow, reduced road width and the curve in the road.
He highlighted the
information in the supplementary guidance papers as stating the rear of 14 Maes
Llan to side gable of plot 37 with side landing window facing Maes Llan was
only 12.4m away less than 41feet the length of a school bus, with number 13
Maes Llan being just 12m. In his opinion any window in this close proximity was
not acceptable and below the 15m guidance. He stated he had been informed the
building density of the site was not an issue, so he questioned why they had
been proposed so close to existing properties.
Travelling surface
water from the development from the attenuation pond to a gully on the main
road that had existing flooding issues, into a pipe that discharged into a
water course that Natural Resource Wales maps illustrated to be of high flood
risk was not acceptable. He stated he
was concerned that no comments had been received by NRW or Denbighshire’s Flood
risk officers. He stated on site disposal should be planned for by the use of
attenuation cranes and not passed on.
Helen Morgan (FOR)
– Informed members she had been brought up in locally in Ruthin. Members heard
the applicant was a long established local company that had created huge
employment for the area employing over 500 people with 8% being from North
Wales. In her opinion the location of the site was appropriate for the new
development and was sustainable and fit within the local development plan
(LDP). The principle to develop housing on the site was considered to be
acceptable. Llandyrnog had been identified as a village within the growth
strategy for the LDP, it would therefor meet the local housing needs for the area.
The original proposal site has planning permission which exists for 40 houses,
this development offered the same number of houses. The proposal had been
revised to ensure the development met with the requirements of legislations.
A mixture of 2, 3
and 4 bed houses was proposed a mixture of detached and semi-detached. It was
stressed that the highways department had stated the development would not have
an unacceptable effect on local highways and the main access complied with
standards.
She stressed no
objections from the statutory consultees had been received. In her opinion the
development represented a positive contribution to the sustainable development
within Denbighshire and would give a contribution to the housing need in the
area including 4 affordable houses. The development was in line with key
principals of planning policies Wales, including local polices that had been
adopted in the LDP.
General debate - The
Chair thanked both speakers for the comments. The Development Control Manager
(DCM) informed members that a number of officers were present to offer
additional information for technical queries.
Members were
informed the main planning agenda reports are prepared a few weeks prior to the
meeting date to enable the papers to be translated and published, officers then
produce the supplementary late sheets with any additional information that has
been received which were circulated the day before the meeting. The DCM
informed members that occasionally officers would receive very late representations
that are submitted after the circulation of the late information.
Members heard that
a very late representation had been received for this application. The DCM
stated the information had been received from Dr James Davies MP. With the
agreement of the Chair and committee the DCM verbally presented the information
contained within the letter. The DCM read out the letter in full to the
Committee which covered issues of the land allocation, density, road safety,
distance to existing dwellings, drainage and house types.
The Chair confirmed
a site visit had taken place.
Councillor Peter Scott confirmed he had
attended the site visit. He informed the committee Highways officers had been
present to answer concerns regarding traffic. He was concerned about the
proximity of existing houses 13 and 14 and the new proposed property at plot
no. 37 . He was pleased to note in the additional information the full gable
elevation of the proposed property at plot 37 would not be located immediately
behind 13 or 14 Maes Llan but half way between the two and was therefore not
considered to be overbearing on either property. He believed that if an opaque
window was placed it would prevent overlooking into property 13/14.
Councillor Merfyn Parry (Local Member)
reminded members that debate about the development of the site had been ongoing
for a number of years and encouraged members to read the history of the
application included in the papers. He stated he had received various concerns
from local residents including highways, visual impact, flood risk and the
footpath. He stated he was pleased to note a commuted sum for open space in the
village had been proposed. He was also pleased the housing needs had been
amended to accommodate the needs of residents.
Councillor Huw Hilditch-Roberts thanked
officers for the detailed papers and proposed to grant the application in
accordance with officer recommendations. Councillor Peter Scott seconded the
proposal to grant.
In response to concerns raised the Senior Engineer- Development Control noted the plot was subject to an extant
planning consent for the erection of the same number of dwellings granted in
2016. It was stressed the existing 30 mph speed limit was proposed to be
extended by 40 meters beyond the development boundary. A new footway was also
proposed linking in to the existing footpath at the site. He confirmed a
significant variation to the original scheme was the off street parking for the
properties off Gladstone Terrace, vehicles would be accessing driveways over
the footway. This parking facility was not uncommon. Members heard there was a
footpath along the northern boundary of the site which linked in by the White
Horse public house would have improvements such as lighting. The proposed
improvements to the footpath and lighting would provide a safe link to the
village including the school.
The Flood Risk Engineer confirmed any new
development over 100sq meters required approval from the SUDs Approval Body
(SAB) an application had been submitted and met all the statutory requirements.
Members heard an outstanding matter that would need to be addressed regarding
the discharge of the surface water at the site, it required the upgrade of an
existing culvert. Proposals to upgrade that culvert had been submitted which
will be subject to adjacent landowners, once that had been achieved there was
no reason why the SUDs application could not be approved.
It was highlighted the principal of having a
lagoon to aid at times of exceedance events had been included in the proposal.
He confirmed the lagoon would remain dry for the majority of the year.
The DCM confirmed a condition for an opaque
window at plot 37 was acceptable and could be included with the other suggested
conditions. It was highlighted the design of the scheme had been amended from
the original design. Officers were satisfied that there was a wide range of
properties included in the design of the scheme. New legislations had also led
to some of the alterations regarding the design of the scheme.
Proposal
– Councillor Huw
Hilditch-Roberts proposed the application be GRANTED in accordance with officer
recommendation, with the inclusion of an additional condition for the use of
opaque windows on the first floor of plot 37 be included. This was seconded by
Councillor Peter Scott.
Due to technical
issues with the voting for remote members there was a 5-minute pause of the
meeting. It was decided to do a role call for those members attending remotely.
VOTE:
FOR – (11 votes cast in the Chamber, 5 votes cast via Zoom) - 16
AGAINST – 0
ABSTAIN – 1
RESOLVED that permission be GRANTED in
accordance with officer
recommendations as detailed
within the report and supplementary papers with the additional condition as detailed
above.
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